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(January 2007) Unfortunately the latest news is that Mr. Fallone
is going to try to continue his effort to rezone the Paul Road
property to GB without NAP. Our goal is to prevent this.
| NAP's withdrawal
of their Mall on Paul proposal was a big victory. But it can
be viewed in two important ways: It can be seen as a
victory for some and a defeat for others - and - as an
opportunity for increased cooperation among Chili residents, developers and elected officials to work more
closely together for Chili's future.
We may not all always agree on issues, but we can still
respect each other and work toward mutually acceptable
compromises. There are many lessons here for those who tried
to push something through using back-door tactics.
Now is a time to cooperate and work together in an open
manner for Chili's future. The revitalization of the Town's
current commercial core should be the major priority.
Integrating some sort of nice Main Street design which
includes suitable places for the town's people to gather and
socialize could be a win-win situation. Many other
opportunities for increased cooperation - and most
importantly - increased trust! - now exist.
We must forget this Mall on Paul idea.
Lets work on revitalizing our current commercial core so
everyone can be a winner!
Jordon Brown, Webmaster |
(December 2006) Why haven't we heard anything from the
developer, NAP, as of late?
One can only look at the facts and
make an educated guess. The fact is, NAP has contacted each Town
Board member in an attempt to gage what their view point is on
the Master Plan. By now they should realize that everyone
recognizes that the Master Plan does not support their project.
Despite all their attempts to manipulate the facts (in cahoots
with our Town Supervisor), the rest of our Town Board has
demonstrated their integrity by refusing to accept their
distortions and attempts to manipulate the truth. Everyone is
entitled to their own opinion about the wisdom of this project;
but everyone is not entitled to their own facts! So, hopefully,
NAP will save everyone the time and expense of continuing this
charade and withdraw their request for rezoning and head home to
Georgia!
(November 2006)
Why does the developer insist that the
Master Plan supports a Mall On Paul when it
clearly does not?
Here is what Jeff Pape,
representative of the out of town developers NAP from Georgia
had to say to our Town Council at the October 4th, 2006 Town
Board meeting in response to Councilwomen Ignatowski pointing
out a number of passages that seem to clearly indicate this
property is recommended for PNOD rather than GB:
Jeff Pape:
"It’s probably the most important subject relative to our
project. It is appropriate to address a few of the concerns.
Ginny, one of the sections that you read -- keep in mind, we didn't have the
benefit of – you guys sat in the meetings, a lot participated on
the committee in 2002. You guys were very clear in your minds
with what the intent was. We came in and read this document
cold. When we read a document code, there is discrepancy. We
went to the maps. Maps are typically used to clarify things. The
first maps we saw were the colored maps. Nobody can dispute it
is clearly General Business on the color maps. I know it is an
issue, and that is why I'm not using it in our presentation.
However, when you look at the maps, I can interpret that same
exact paragraph to mean that the PNOD was simply the area between the
General Business shown on the future land use map and Archer
Road very clearly, so again, we came in cold. We interpreted and
didn't have the benefit of all of the
experience that
you guys had in it. That was our interpretation."
Mr. Pape admits that he does
not have all the facts that our Town Board has and that he
"came in cold" when interpreting the Town's Master Plan. He
actually states that he "interpreted
and didn't have the benefit of all of the
experience that you guys had in
it."
He seems to be
explaining (perhaps admitting) to the Board how he came up with his erroneous
interpretations!
The puzzling
question is why does he continue to dispute what four out of
five Town Board members have told him: That these properties
were recommended for PNOD. The maps he is using for evidence
were either not a part of the approved plan (as they were
created at a later date - in error - i.e. the color maps and
website map) or they are inconsistent and do not reflect what
the committee recommended and what was approved by the Town (the
black and white map).
At the October 4, 2006 Town Board
meeting, the developer from Georgia demonstrates his lack of
familiarity with our Master Plan by referring to a black and
white map (which he shows in a power point presentation) that
clearly does not represent the final recommendations made by the
Update Committee in 2002. This map shows that same black shading
on Coldwater Road between Chestnut Ridge and 490 that the
developer tries to claim indicates GB for the land in question.
That map is obviously not accurate and does not correspond to
the Master Plan's text or any of the update committee's
discussions as indicated in meeting minutes.
The paragraph above also contains
this statement: "
However, when you look at the maps, I can interpret that same
exact paragraph to mean that the PNOD was simply the area
between the General Business shown on the future land use map
and Archer Road very clearly," Mr. Pape again shows his lack of familiarity
with our Town and our zoning codes as the strip of land he is
referring to extends out from Archer Road only 300 feet, which
would make it too small and too narrow to meet the various
setback and other code
requirements for PNOD!
Yes the out of town developer has
the disadvantage of not knowing the history of the Master Plan
and the unfortunate experience of relying on maps that were
created long after the Master Plan Update was approved in 2002
and that are not accurate. He seems to be admitting as much in
his statement above.
Even the current owner of most of
the property in question, with whom this developer has an
option, already acknowledged on more than one occasion, that
this land was targeted for PNOD. I would assume the two of them must speak
with each other!
Perhaps the current owner thought
that he could pull a fast one on the out of town developer and
our Town Board! But now it appears that even the developer
realizes the truth of what was intended for the properties in
question.
But one still has to wonder:
Why does the developer keep insisting that
the Master Plan supports his proposed development when it
clearly does not?
Why did the developer from Georgia bring an attorney to Oct 4th Town Board Meeting?
The answer to this question may also
be the answer to the first question (above) as well.
Here is another excerpt from the
October 4th Town Board Meeting:
JEFF PAPE:
"Along with me is
Betsy Brugg, with Fix, Spindelman, Brovitz & Goldman, and they
are part of our team,because we certainly don't rely on just
coming to Town and making a determination of the Master Plan
without engaging local counsel..."
MS. BRUGG: ... "I guess the only point I would want to make is
to let the Board know my office, our team of experienced land
use and development attorneys and litigators have looked at
this. My client is putting a lot of time and money into
this project ... and we feel confident that the proposal and the
necessary rezoning are consistent with the Comprehensive Plan,
and equally important, that the rezoning and the development
would stand up in a court of law and survive any technical legal
challenge based on the Comprehensive Plan."
(As if the folks
who live in this predominantly residential area have not also put
"a lot of time and money" into their homes and
neighborhoods!)
It seems that it is not very
important to the developer and their attorney what the members
of the 2002 and 2006 Update Committees intended for this area.
The attorney from "Fix", etc and Jeff Pape state that if the town wanted to rezone to GB
(despite what we know was the true intention of the update
committees), Betsy Brugg, and her appropriately named firm "Fix,
Spindelman, Brovitz & Goldman could help defeat any legal
challenge! One might say that the "Fix" is in!
But the issue is not who would win a
legal battle! Everyone hopes to avoid such a scenario!
Did the developer bring their
attorney from "Fix" to offer assistance for the Town for an anticipated legal battle or to imply
that they could win a law suit against the Town if their
rezoning request was not approved? I have heard people who were
at the meeting give both interpretations, but either way, the
intentions of the 2002 and 2006 update committees and the 2002
Town Board members, as it relates to updating the Master
Plan, are being set aside by the developer and his attorney as
secondary issues. That isn't right.
To claim the ability to win a legal
action is not the same as saying that the truth was served or
that the right thing was achieved. I would hope that our Town is
interested in the truth and in doing the right thing.
What was Councilwoman Ignatowski's
response to Jeff Pape's claim at the October 4, 2006 Town Board
meeting that the Master Plan supports rezoning of these
properties to GB?
COUNCILWOMAN IGNATOWSKI: "I
was going to say also page 112, very specifically, and – I think
might also clarify where the General Business was concerned. If
you read through there, it -- it recommends rezoning to
commercial of the parcels between Chili Avenue, Paul Road and
Grenell Drive, a small piece in there. Whereas it says the area
located near Archer and Paul Road, bordered on the east by
Archer, Paul Road on the north, the West Shore Branch on the
south and continuing west to the General Business zone at Chili
Avenue/Paul Road/Coldwater Road. This area is recommended to be
developed as a Planned Neighborhood Overlay District so as to be
a buffer between the adjacent single-family neighborhoods and to
complement the more intense commercial uses of Wegmans plaza. So
that to me quite frankly – that was also the interpretation of
the current landowner. He came forward and asked us for the PNOD
to be rezoned, that parcel. So -- and quite frankly, we just had
a Comprehensive Chili Center Update Committee come forward,
recommending also that that land be retained as PNOD. We asked
for clarification of that at the last Town Board meeting and
that was their interpretation and that is what they are still
recommending. So regardless what is in here, we just spent
$12,000 for an opinion, and that was their opinion, as well."
Well said Ginny!
If the Town Board approves the developer's
request to rezone these properties to General Business, does
that guarantee that a shopping center with a Target will be
built there?
No it doesn't. If the Town Board
voted to rezone these properties to General Business (they are
currently zoned Residential (16 acres) and Restricted
Business with PNOD ( 37 acres) anything that is allowed in a GB
zoned area could be built there. According to Town codes, this
could include such things as; video arcade centers; bowling
alleys and places of public assemblage; video rental/sales;
liquor stores, variety store and gift, notion, toy, pet, hobby,
and bicycle shops, and a clothes-cleaning pickup agency,
including self-service cleaning establishments.
Would the developer of the proposed Mall
continue as the owner and
landlord of this property?
Unfortunately the company that wants to develop and operate the mall on
Paul is
not a local company. They operate out of Atlanta and Cincinnati. And
they are hoping to sell four of their shopping malls in Atlanta,
according to
the Atlanta Business Chronicle;
"All
four metro Atlanta shopping centers North American Properties has put up
for sale still are under construction, and some centers have vacant
space."
Two of these shopping centers have a Target.
This is their first project in New York State. We do not know how long
they will continue to own or operate the mall on Paul if it is built or
even if they will try to sell it before it is even completed.
Is the proposed mall an extension of an existing commercial area
(i.e. Wegmans Plaza)?
The out of town developer from
Georgia tried to make this claim, but it is inaccurate. Wegmans
Plaza is on Chili Ave. where many other commercial
establishments are located. It is also directly across the
street from K Mart and other commercial businesses. The proposed
location for the Mall on Paul is on Paul Road. And it is in the midst of
hundreds and hundreds of single family homes and down the road
from an elementary school. There isn't a single commercial
establishment on Paul Road! The out of town developer from
Georgia is trying to twist the facts about this proposal. Nice
try NAP. But no cigar!
Is a
Regional Shopping Center compatible with Chili's Master Plan?
Our Town's Master Plan only supports
Neighborhood or Community Shopping centers and speaks against
the development of Regional Shopping Malls. The proposed Mall on
Paul will have 1,755 parking spaces! The population of Chili is
around 28,000 people and 10,000 households. This means that there will be enough
parking spaces at the proposed Mall on Paul for nearly 17.5% of
all the households in Chili! ...Obviously
the developer is creating a Regional Shopping Mall for folks
from the city and neighboring Towns. And our Master Plan does
not support the development of Regional Shopping Malls! (by the
way, even Wegmans has less than 700 parking spots!)
Would
the Mall On Paul contribute to the long-term growth and
sustainability of Chili’s commercial core?
Chili’s commercial core is located
on Chili Avenue and is centered around Chili Paul Plaza. That is
why the Town’s Master Plan Update Committee has recommended that
the Town invest in the commercial development of that area to
expand Chili’s commercial core.
The Mall on Paul proposal would
fragment Chili’s commercial core by redirecting traffic to a
side street (Paul Road) and away from our commercial core. Chili
Paul Plaza and other local businesses would be certain to be
severely hurt by such a development.
Locating new commercial development on Chili Avenue in the area
of Chili Paul Plaza would be a win–win for the Town, the
citizens of Chili and current local businesses (including Chili
Paul Plaza) by increasing traffic to Chili's commercial core.
This would help assure the sustainability of the Town's current
businesses as well as bring in new commercial options for our
Town.
The answer to the questions is,
unfortunately, “No”.might end up
owning and operating the proposed mall on Paul over the
long run and who knows |